Death of police officers: Getting honest about Santa Cruz’s story

Stunned mourners console each other at the vigil for two slain police officers. (Dan Coyro/Sentinel)

As the shock of Tuesday’s tragic violence settles into grief, many people are writing to the Sentinel, or posting online, messages that go something like this::

Our town has been overrun by criminals, because we’ve tolerated aberrant behaviors. This so-called tolerance has not only cost two police officers their lives, but is ruining our beautiful coastal paradise.

Oh, that it was that simple.

To start with, the awful chain of events that led to the deaths of Sgt. Loran Baker and Det. Elizabeth Butler lead back into what our reporters are finding in the disturbed and disturbing life of Jeremy Goulet, the man who killed the two detectives and who died himself in a hail of bullets shortly after.

Unlike many such individuals who commit heinous crimes, Goulet’s trail is not all that difficult to follow, but, almost inevitably, there is a sense of missed chances that would have diverted him from this fateful encounter with the two Santa Cruz police officers. Goulet’s odyssey through the criminal justice system in Portland, Ore. — ironically, another city know, and often mocked, for its “tolerance” — leaves a number of “what if” questions. Why would Oregon not have a statute that would have identified him as a sex offender? Was any attempt made to separate him from his guns? Why would he have been jailed for his threatening behavior toward law enforcement officials in that city, but then be released with seemingly little follow-up? Why did he not end up in prison?

His arrest only last Friday in Santa Cruz — he bailed out of jail — may or may not have triggered alarms that a guy with a violent past involving guns and sex offenses was on the prowl here and may have led to Tuesday’s encounter with the two detectives.

While we’ll continue to dig into Goulet’s past and his run-ins with the law, what we’ve found already is unsettling — Goulet came here not that long ago, he was again apparently acting out his deviant sexual behaviors toward women, he was angry and resentful, and he owned guns. His own father told reporters today his son was a “ticking time bomb.”

It’s certainly true that in the wrong circumstances in any town, anywhere, a deranged person bent on violence will be able to carry out his wicked revenge fantasies. And while it’s also true none of what went on before made these awful events somehow inevitable, it’s hardly a stretch to look in the rear-view mirror and see the potential for something really bad happening involving Jeremy Goulet was coming this way.

So back to the thought that Santa Cruz is a mecca of sorts for criminals and disturbed individuals.

Certainly, events of the past year or so seem to indicate just that. The horrifying murder on a public street in broad daylight of local shop owner Shannon Collins by a deranged homeless ex-con last May seemed to open a new chapter of violence and fear in Santa Cruz, the city and the county. Subsequently, more violence, including a recent downtown killling, home invasions, gang retaliations, shootings, rapes, homeless encampments and assorted other crimes and situations have set the community on an even more precarious edge. Add to that recent Sentinel coverage of a mostly unregulated needle exchange program that dovetailed with increasing community outrage over an epidemic of heroin and methamphetamine use and dealing, and there began to be a noticeable shift of public perceptions. Our well-known and sometimes relished weirdness and tolerance had turned on itself.

But the truth is that this present darkness is not something altogether new.

In the early 1970s, and proceeding grimly into the ’80s, Santa Cruz, city and county, was the scene of a series of grisly and demented mass murders; some were tied to the drug counterculture, some to what has become almost commonplace in today’s news: a breakdown in the mental health system that even then allowed dangerously ill violent predators to wreak evil on a law-abiding, but often naive, local population.

The names of some of the killers still resound in a macabre and hideous hall of shame: Edmund Kemper, Herbert Mullin, John Linley Frazier, David Carpenter (aka “The Trailside Killer”). And that’s just the most infamous ones. There were others. Santa Cruz had to live down, or outlive, a sordid reputation as the “murder capital” if not of the world, certainly of California.

My point, though, isn’t that Santa Cruz, so beautiful and so blessed in terms of geography and people, has some sort of evil curse hovering about, or that the excesses of the ’60s somehow landed here and settled in to inflict more and more misery and suffering.

But clearly, several threads run through our story that continue to weave into this latest tragedy.

One is the drug culture that took root here long ago and continues today. The Sentinel has reported ad infinitum on the epidemics of hard drugs in this community and the cost in terms of ruined lives and associated crimes. But — and here’s where the increasingly reviled “tolerance” label sticks in the craw — people are still drawn here by the availability of drugs such as heroin and meth along with the prevalent street and underground culture that has caused a strong counter reaction among citizens and neighborhood groups.

Another is that while police have been supported — and the outpouring of tributes and grief toward the two slain officers is proof — this support has historically been tempered with a wariness about too heavy a presence, which might scare away tourists, or students, or people buying expensive homes. While law enforcement in this county is committed, well-trained, even well-paid, no one who lives in Santa Cruz County would ever say there are “too many cops” or their presence is too pervasive. That’s just the way it’s been for a long time

.Santa Cruz also suffers because the county jail is just off downtown and the homeless shelters are near downtown. Since the area also attracts what seems to be a higher-than-almost-anywhere-else number of backpack-toting transients — some drawn here by the drug culture, others by the high level of services — along with people with serious mental issues, the mix has created a long-standing tension downtown and in other parts of the city.

With the violent gang subculture also mixed in, along with the prevalence of guns, the results can be volatile.

The deaths of officers Baker and Butler — senseless and horrifying as they were — will not be in vain if all of us who live in Santa Cruz County are willing to have an honest and open discussion about what is acceptable — and what is not. There’s a cost in terms of saying we don’t want to be a haven for drug dealers, street criminals and people who think by coming here they can act out some sort of demented fantasy that would not be tolerated anywhere else.

Butch Baker and Elizabeth Butler can no longer speak into the Santa Cruz story. We who remain can bring meaning to their sacrifice and honor their memories if we confront even the painful chapters and begin a new narrative.

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About Don Miller

Don Miller is the Editor of the Santa Cruz Sentinel.
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  • Staydawn

    as the daughter of a former police officer, a native santa cruzan, and a mother of two teens i just said this exact thing to friends last week.u00a0 the people in charge came here for the most part in the 70′s and refuse to do what needs to be done to support the reality of the city, not just the marketed version.u00a0 nothing kills tourism, home sales, and business development more thanu00a0u00a0uncontrolled violence and the “haves” who masquerade as sociallyu00a0aware and concerned about the masses. iu00a0want my city back too.u00a0 come out of your spring street ivory towers and look around.

  • Anonymous

    I’m very surprised by your editorial.u00a0 Maybe you finally got that “Enough is Enough.”u00a0 Please continue with the hard-hitting facts and presentation——-BUT——-I will be watching to see if you report about the annual 4/20 smokeout at UCSCu00a0 as per usual.u00a0 Let’s see if you will ‘wink & nod’ for that and let it slide while proclaiming false outrage.

  • Barbara

    nThis shooting, sadly, could have happened anywhere, and has, as we have seen in Colorado, in Arizona, in Newtown, CT. But the greater issue for Santa Cruz, as you so rightly point out, is that it has a reputation which attracts dangerous criminals and violently disturbed individuals. And as we have all witnessed, they are coming in droves. Why wouldn’t they come here? There is no indication that criminals, con artists, drug dealers andu00a0predatorsu00a0won’t thrive here.u00a0nnIt’s time to increase our police force and visibility, and decrease the gang presence. We can no longer tolerate the meth and heroin dealing in this town, or the used needles, or the human feces polluting our beaches, or panhandlers frightening andu00a0harassingu00a0visitors.u00a0nWe’ve gone passed being counterculture and have full-blown pockets of anticulture. u00a0nnWe all want to help the downtrodden, the struggling, the ill and the less fortunate. And well we should. But the way our town has gone about it is now proven to be –u00a0verifiablyu00a0and unquestionably — a horrific failure. u00a0u00a0

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/AFTOV3KUTAJQZFRUALXVUZ7COU VickiG

    Thank you Don for telling and showing us the “whole picture” and what is good and bad outside the box. We need to hear and listen to each others points of view and try to figure out what will work best for not only Santa Cruz, but for many of the other towns and cities that are grasping for answers, we may not always agree and will agree sometimes….I send only good thoughts and well wishes to a comfortable solution. I lived in the Santa Cruz area for 20+ years, before there,u00a0Santa Clarau00a0County, I still have family and friends that still live in the Santa Cruz/Watsonville/Monterey Bay areas. I moved up to a small town in northeastern California in Modoc County, first Alturas and then Canby. Both towns have their issues with drugs, especially Meth, some burgularies, dui’s, child abuse, etc. We are dealing with these, but on a much smaller scale due to our population, but the issues and problems that they bring are just as painful for us as for bigger cities. Each of us can do a small partu00a0 to help figure out a solution and to provide and walk the solution to some of the issues that I and you mentioned.nThank you for your editorial.nVicki Grilliu00a0

  • Samzing

    These criminals come here for the same reasons you do.

  • Awfulorv

    u00a0While watching homelessu00a0 backpackers trudge to, and from, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, I once had a fellow worker exclaim “My God, are we the only SOB’s working in this whole town”?u00a0 That’s the memory I carry forward, from the late nineties, of Santa Cruz. Looks like things have gotten worse. It’s a shame…

  • Rroy62

    Well put.

  • Vyperstriker

    This is another notchu00a0in the every growing list of wake up calls to Santa Cruz city officials. Although its been bubbling up for quite some time now, its made all the more tragic that two good officers died yesterday. City officials, time to “Step Up !” or “Step Down !” We can keep Santa Cruz weird, without all of this “tolerated” violence.

  • Santa Cruz County Native

    Please don’t conflate the horrors of the early 70′s with what is happening today. u00a0In fact, remove David Carpenter from your list. u00a0He was from San Jose and mainly used our county as his dumping ground. u00a0I think that the change came with the dominance of the Santa Cruz city voting process by UCSC students. u00a0SC then became the experimental subject of half-baked societal experimentation. u00a0That still happens today, regretfully, and makes what some might call tolerance, the disgusting mess the city is in today.

  • Kathy Lake

    Well put. The “tolerance” we’ve inherited in Santa Cruz is not for healthy diversity, but for making excuses for very bad behaviors that are harmful to everyone, including the people acting them out. Violence, drug addiction and criminal behaviors are not acceptable in a city that wants people to feel safe expressing their artistic passions, appreciation for Nature, and living in a vibrant community.

  • Anonymous

    u00a0When does “tolerance” become enabling?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000732163099 Tara Crowley Rinaldi

    u00a0oh, now we’re scapegoating the university students?u00a0 Please….

  • The Serf

    I am a local and Santa Cruz has always had a dark and violent underbelly as long as I have lived.nnThe dark side has its roots mainly in the drug sub-culture and the criminal rackets that seem to be allowed to thrive unimpeded because of the tolerance of the left-wing political and cultural u00a0elite that seems to think drugs and the crime rackets are just harmless vices.nnIt also seems that the political elite puts out a welcome mat for u00a0social degenerates and misfits.nnThat being said, although politicians and social service bureaucrats have responsibilities under the law, u00a0they can’t be the gate keepers at preventing every horrible thing.nnYou can’t pass a law to prevent evil.nnWe can’t have Big Brother monitoring our every move.nnHowever, it doesn’t help when we have au00a0liberalu00a0political and media elite that has openly encouraged Americans that they are not longer individuals responsible for their anti-social behavior, that civil society and family responsibility are no longer important, and that every ill in the world can be fixed with someu00a0crocodileu00a0tears andu00a0floweryu00a0rhetoric about raising taxes and creating new programs or finding new ways to limit the freedoms of the law-abiding, as if the end all and be all of our existence is the police/welfare state.nnThe Sentinel will wring its hands about how we must do something.nnBut where the Sentinel completely fails us at is its policy of turning a blind eye to the incompetency of u00a0the government and non-government organizations when it comes to accountability concerning the social services they currently provide and their effectiveness in dealing with social problems now and a refusal to follow-up on stories once crises like this subside.nnPeople will always fall through the cracks in society and not everything is preventable with an old or new government program, but the media does have a responsibility to analyze honestly and with integrity what we are doing with our public and private resources effectively, u00a0and if it is a failure of public policy, it should be reported on, but the Sentinel also has a responsibility to remind people that we are also individuals who have to monitor own behaviors, care for our family and friends, u00a0and support people who seem to be flailing about in their ownu00a0sociopathu00a0wonderlands by at least referring them to professionals or agencies that might prevent gruesome tragedies with their expertise.nn

  • Nsite108

    All this blood is on Rotkin, Lane and Posner’s hands for making and supporting these anarchist policies.u00a0

  • Beachgirl

    Drugs and everything related to their use are harmful to everyone around them. There is a reason these drugs are illegal. But if the rules are not enforced, then they should not exist, as unenforced rules cause more harm. Many of us have seen Santa Cruz change and it is time to get involved. It is not the UCSC students who are harming this city. There are many people making more money than they should be renting their awful properties for high rent to these students. Then there are those who break the law, in public view, and this is tolerated and ignored. To spend money here as a tourist is scary and most prefer to stay elsewhere for good reason. The beauty of the area is priceless and needs to be protected. Our law enforcers need to be supported for doing their job and provided the means to not only arrest people but remove them permanently for their behavior. Instead of enforcing parking meters, the city needs to focus on enforcing the rules of the law. Making drug use clean solves nothing for anyone. Please do not let these officers who lost their lives trying to make things right die in vain. They could be the power behind the people who want this city back.

  • Jerryff

    This notion that “too heavy a presence of police” will scare away tourists is nonsense.u00a0 Having been to New Orleans a number of times, I can say that I have never heard any tourists in the French Quarter complain about too many police.u00a0 In fact, without a heavy police presence in the French Quarter, crime would increase seriously and tourism would drop.u00a0 The police make people feel safe, not scare them away. u00a0 I think this is just a classic “straw man” argument.u00a0

  • Santa Cruz County Native

    Yes, actually I am putting part of the blame on a campus where 95% of the students vote in lockstep every election and have put a city council in power year after year that supports its own version of Kumbaya. u00a0It hasn’t worked very well, has it?

  • Tony

    Recent crime in Westlake and UCSC area linked to homeless shelter being set up inu00a0First Congregational Church Santa Cruz 900 High Street. Homeless leave in the morning and wonder the neighborhood and tell others about the area.u00a0

  • guest

    This story shows that you can’t always blame the homeless, the illegal immigrants, and the non-tax paying “moochers.” u00a0Feel free to direct your anger towards white, male baristas. u00a0

  • http://goingtothesea.wordpress.com/ Erin Kirk

    Thoughtful and informative post Don. I am so sad for Santa Cruz tonight.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    u00a0″…an epidemic of heroin and methamphetamine use and dealing,”nnLet’s go over this AGAIN. You’re talking about your own kids. What IS being described in this editorial is a town of transients of ALL sorts and hardly ANYONE can afford to live and work here. Even Santa Cruz’ own children who are most likely going to have to move away to raise their own family. Pay the rent while selling, lets say auto parts in a store in town… How would YOU feel if you had no opportunity, correct in that assumption or not.nnYou’d probably hit the “Escape Button” too.nnMost localu00a0addictsu00a0are young white and Middle Class. Absolutely, and to evenu00a0insinuateu00a0that a needle exchange is even remotelyu00a0responsibleu00a0for a Santa Cruz crime wave based on drugsu00a0hearkensu00a0right back to it’s own development without concern for a livable community, and is patently absurd.nItu00a0interferesu00a0with the commercial property interests. That’s all… Community in the real socioeconomic sense of the word interferes with their SHORT & MIDTERM profit margins.nnIn the Long Term, we’re allu00a0pooreru00a0as a community for it. A community that sends MORE officers to deal with a panhandler on Pacific than deal with a potentially violent person.nnThree police officers to tell me I can’t lock my bike to a parking meter.nnThat happened just last week.nnBut they can’t SOLVE violent crimes such as the shooting of a college student by Natural Bridges, or the Campus rape, or find the person or persons who REALLY shot Pauly.nnIs it due to the SCPD being so politicized that the end result is a police force that is utterly dysfunctional and functions fine a a blackshirt organization to control their displaced workers now homeless but CANNOT REALLY protect the public safety in any real sense?nnThey consistently avoided sued over and ignored the wishes of the voters of Santa Cruz to PRIORITIZE their policing.u00a0Createdu00a0a non-functioning ‘committee’ for it.nnI say what’s happened is the end result of a SEROUS lack of prioritization, but it’s NOT a priority according to anyone I KNOW to vilify the homeless and addicts for it.u00a0nThat’s just “stupid with malice aforethought.”

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    BTW I knew Butch Baker during his tenure as PD supervisor downtown. He had no problem with ‘street culture’ as it was, and one day, over a cup of coffee due to a rather unusual but mutually friendlyu00a0circumstance, we had a discussion about my handling by a rogue cop now no longer working for the SCPD thanks to his investigation, but also talked casually about ‘what had become of Santa Cruz’.nnnIt was an interesting discussion.nnIt was a discussion the editorialist WOULD NOT like to have been party to, because he would be ashamed today to even write something this shallow and callow.

  • Local yokel

    Interesting editorial but I’m not sure the editor realizes that most of the drug addicts in this town are middle class and housed. This horrible tragedy was committed by a white, middle class housed American citizen. Not a homeless illegal alien gang member. Santa Cruz should be proud of the work SCPD does with our homeless population. Most of us are just a few missed pay checks or a huge medical bill away from being homeless ourselves. Don’t vilify the homeless service center. The help they are providing are saving lives everyday.

  • David

    It’s really all about tolerance. What type of behavior is our community willing to tolerate? And to what extent and it what way are we willing to enforce limits on people’s behavior? Tolerance is like a rubber band and ours is streched to the breaking point. We will never be a lilly white American city with clean streets and free of problems. But can’t we at least try? nI must admit that I live up on the hill in a quiet and safe neighborhood (a little ways outside the city limits – just like Don Miller) and up here we’re mostly free of these problems that are occurring every day just a couple miles below us. And up here we WON’T tolerate bad behavior. In fact I get yelled at for parking in front of my neighbor’s house! But truthfully I’d much rather live down in town, where I grew up. But not until and unless the rubber band comes wayyyy back to where its not strectched out beyond recogniton like it is now.

  • Patti

    This guy was an ex-con, sex offender, seriously deranged dude with big weapons who made a choice to come to Santa Cruz. This is not an employment issue it is an attitude issue.

  • Betsy

    There is much we cannot control. What we can influence, we must. People need to act like neighbors, get to know each other and look out for each other. Lend a hand. Had the USCS student assaulted at the bus stop had company on the bus bench she might not have been targeted. Same for the woman raped on campus, at risk in broad daylight simply because she was alone. We also need to stop regarding the police as “them” vs the cool people, “us”. Beat cops who got to know neighborhoods in NYC brought crime down dramatically. We have to be willing to trust the police as “us” in order to help them help us help them prevent and solve crimes. None of us could have stopped the tragic lost of our officers Tuesday, but the next one is on us. We must all step up. Safe communities are not like tap water, there on demand. We have to resolve to make our community safe by all playing a part. Be visible, be vigilant, be careful and be caring.

  • Tracy

    nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnAs is the case withnmost of the murders here, and elsewhere, they are usually committed by drugnaddicts and mentally ill people: we, as a society, need to spend our taxndollars wisely and that means rehabs and mental institutions where the laws ofnthe land can enforce incarceration rather than the “catch andnrelease” mentality that is putting criminals back on the streetsninstantaneously.nnnu00a0nnnRather than paying fornspecial interest programs, lobbied for by special interest groups, let’s passnlaws to enforce incarceration to long-term rehabs and mental institutions.nu00a0Get them off the streets and then round up the terrorists whom we callngangsters.nnnu00a0nnnLet’s take protect the citizens and provide ansafe place to live for those who don’t deserve to be victimized.nnn

  • Matt

    Mr. Miller is spot on. Unfortunately his commentary will probably be met with the usual tired and worn out left-of-center majority rhetoric which puts guys like Micah Posner in the Council and chastises men like Bruce McPherson for living in the “enclaves of Pasatiempo”. Is this town too tolerant? You bet and the take-over of the Wells Fargo building on River Street says it all – where a group of self-depreciating hooligans break in, vandalize and soil a privately owned building for 72-hours before the cops are allowed to intervene. End result – slaps on the wrist for all the perps and a fat repair bill for the tax-paying property owner. These perps should have been maced, cuffed and stuffed at the first sign of the break-in before they got too comfortable. u00a0

  • ToriV

    Until we better support the mentally ill, the addicted, u00a0the incarcerated, and work with troubled youth…. without sparing the funds, we will find ourselves in this position.u00a0

  • John

    This is au00a0u00a0repugnant andu00a0totally ridiculous comment, regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not. You should be ashamed of yourself.u00a0

  • Connor W

    Exactly…it’s all the hippies that settled down here in 70′s, bought houses cheap, had kids…They’ve been dealing with some kind of subconscious guilt over “selling out” by electing decades of useless social visionaries to the city council. After running the city into the ground, their children have been forced to look for opportunity elsewhere, artificially extending their voting power even longer.

  • Joseph Shaughnessy

    I left the Army in 1988 after five years of active duty, needing to get as far from thenmilitary and that mentality as possible. Naturally, I left Fort Ord on one sidenof the Monterey and moved to the other. Santa Cruz offered a respite and anrenewal for my spirit after an exciting, rigorous, and regimented militarynadventure involving travel to four continents and the chance to learn twonadditional languages. I had begun my consideration of moving to Santa Cruz asnearly as 1984 when stationed in Germany. The Sunday edition of the Sentinel wasnmailed to me for a half year so that I could decide what part of town I wantednto live. Even then, I was surprised to learn through a series of specialnreports of the moribund nature of Beach Flats and all of the failed SC CitynCouncil experimentation since the mid-1960s to resurrect some type of viable community and rid the area of drugs, gangs, robberies, and prostitution. nnnnHow has that worked out hence?nnnnAfter my discharge, I moved near Natural Bridges on the West Side (my landlord was thenlady who handed out the pipe-cleaner monarchs for so many years at the annual MonarchnFestival), alternating courses at UCSC and Cabrillo, and took a job at thenmedical professional offices at 550 Water Street. Many mornings I left my carnat home and enjoyed the most beautiful bus commute in the world from Auburn andnWCD to the transit center downtown, getting coffee and something fresh from thenAlfaro brotheru2019s bakery (the younger brother was also a vet). I then walkedneast and crossed the footbridge behind the government building, crossing Oceannand past the Jury Room to the back of 550 Water. nnnnIn 1990 in the aftermath of the earthquake, the nature of things changed severely. No longer were the transients around downtown just Deadheads between tours or those on a one or two year walkabout around the country, or perhaps exploring the coast. Untilnthey found work, the original type I met were the type of people not too proudnto ask for spare change, nor also invite themselves to some type of day-labornor day-work to get funds until an opening they had interviewed for becamenavailable. nnnnInstead, these were mean, tough kids who did not think they had to take any type ofnwork, traditional or alternative natured, to support themselves. When you didnnot acquiesce to their demands for spare change, they would spit at you, if younwere lucky. At the worst, they would throw feces or a container holding that morningu2019snurine at you. In 1991, I started counting the number of times I was panhandlednfrom the transit center to 550 Water. Over a couple weeks, the average was 27ndaily attempts to separate me from money. nnnnAfter refusing a young bum early one morning in May of 1991, I was threatened with anknife and chased by three young guys across the footbridge over the SannLorenzo. I was able to bring police officers to all three of them a couple daysnlater, as they congregated in the same place every morning. I had the opportunitynto hear the marshmallow-soft line of questioning from the SCPD to these guys,nand had my chances of having charges pressed came to nothing. After spendingnsome time in court to hear criminal proceedings in other cases that actuallynmade it to trial, it occurred to me is that the SCPD was so thoroughlynemasculated by the local police oversight organizations, that I would actually u00a0have needed a significant knife wound to expect that department and a DA to get charges brought. This initiated my plans to relocate to a more rational locale in Silicon Valley, were San Jose was and is one of the safest large cities in the world. u00a0Your lot in Santa Cruz has gotten worse in the intervening years.nnnnI believe because of the falsely perceived activist notions and charges brought about regarding the SCPD, or any other law enforcement unit for that matter, I believe that Bakernand Butler responding to that porch had to do so in an endorsed pacified mindset that would not allow them to live out the day at the hands of a hardened maniac like Goulet. Mynvisits to Santa Cruz have been fewer with each passing year, as the tolerance from drugged out criminality to opportunistic May Day marauders is now fully institutional in your town. nnnnPeace to the families and friends of Baker, Butler, and the SCPD.

  • http://www.judicial-exploitation.org/ Christopher Dorner

    u00a0We can not say that the Police office are not alive but we have to say that, police officers are Martyr. Above article gives best information about this case.

  • Ckp

    I agree. u00a0As a native Santa Cruzan i remember this city before UCSC. u00a0The students should either vote in their home town or we should change the voting procedure so they only have control over one district. u00a0But for young adults most of whom have yet to pay taxes or live on their own to be making major decisions for my city should not be allowed. This would make a huge change to our city but since most of the city council and most of the county supervisors are not native to santa cruz, this will probably not happen. u00a0

  • Lwest

    There should be a city or county wide ban on panhandling and sleeping outdoors. Other cities in California have enacted these vagrancy laws. Santa Cruz needs extereme action at this point in time. nThere Has been a huge change in the type of “houseless” person hanging in Santa Cruz. These are not your innocent pot heads strumming guitars. nnClean up this city or itizens just may take matters in their own hands.nn

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Nice that you’ve put the comments in Censorship mode.

  • jane becker

    nBeautifully written.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Like boilerplate

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    “These are not your innocent pot heads strumming guitars.”nnYour right, the crime being discussed here was committed by a HOUSED EMPLOYED MIDDLE CLASS MALE and you’re off topic, as is the editor’s presumptions about the root cause of crime in Santa Cruz.nBy the way Panhandling is protected by the 1st Amendment, but limited.nnSanta Cruz has ALL OF the limitations in effect.u00a0

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    [...]I believe because of the falsely perceived activist notions and charges brought about regarding the SCPD, or any other law enforcement unit for that matter, I believe that Bakeru00a0and Butler responding to that porch had to do so in an endorsed pacified mindset that would not allow them to live out the day at the hands of a hardened maniac like Goulet.u00a0[...]nnI believe the SCPD’s pandering to commercial property interests, which pretty much revolve around mass enforcing Municipal nuisance ordinances (Harrassification) u00a0designed (but failing) to increase profit margins for the shop owners to allow the property owners higher price/ft for leases, instead of concentrating on community policing which treats ALL RESIDENTS as members of a u00a0community u00a0has led to SCPD’s lack of prioritization of real problems in Santa Cruz, and yes, a certain softness.nnBecause 99% of the time they’re dealing with people who ARE NO THREAT TO ANYONE, but have been ‘criminalized’ by city policy.So they start believing there are no dangerous people around, because truly, they ARE RARE around here.nnPanhandlers and ‘illegal’ campers didn’t kill two police officers. A KNOWN Sex Offender who could AFFORD TO MOVE HERE AND LIVE HERE LIKE A SO-CALLED “NORMAL” PERSON did.nnI want to know why the SCPD routinely has some panhandler downtown surrounded by two or three police officers, a security guard and downtown host but a call to a house where there was a previous disturbance by a known sex offender who was also known to own guns only calls for two officers?nnMaybe one of Don Miller’s advertisers can answer that.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    I want to reiterate this:nnnI want to know why the SCPD routinely have some panhandler downtown surrounded by two or three police officers, a security guard and downtown host but a call to a house where there was a previous disturbance by a known sex offender who was also known to own guns only calls for two officers?

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    It’s the requirement that the SCPD spend most of their day dealing with people smoking cigarettes and otheru00a0nonsensical nuisanceu00a0ordinances (They’re called that because they ARE NOT ‘laws’) that diverts so much of local PD’s time that’s at the crux of the issue with local law enforcement… swells the ranks of the police apparatus yet thoseu00a0swollenu00a0ranks don’t prevent or even resolve real, as in Cal H&S code, crime.nnnBecauseu00a0their priorities ARE NOT being set by the people of Santa Cruz, or for that matter a citizen mandated and neutered since day one Prioritization committee.nnThe SCPD’s priorities are being steered by the City Council AND City Manager in the interest ofu00a0Commercialu00a0Property interests who falsely believe that nuisance laws resolve social problems created by their own greed, NOT the interest of the community at large, and u00a0it shows.nnBy the bye Jerryff, Do they prohibit smoking, or leaning an elbow on a tourist information kiosk in the French Quarter?nnI didn’t think so.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Don’t feed the trolls.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    That’s a veryu00a0succinctu00a0analysis. Thanks. But we differ in the belief they’re “social visionaries” though. Unless you consider it visionary to be ‘progressive’ in economic policy only.

  • Rnorse3

    u00a0Any stats that justify this claim?

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    FYI, the Homeless (lack of) Resource Center USED TO HAVE rental lockers so au00a0traveleru00a0MIGHT even have half a chance of finding a job around here or even simply not being encumbered by that ‘horrific’ local economic stigmata of having to lug their packs around all day making itu00a0virtuallyu00a0impossible to involve themselves in any normal activities around here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.kerfuffel Brian Kerfuffel

    Also consider that the “progressives” go around the county (Watsonville) pushing district elections to improve disparate representation *EXCEPT FOR* the City of Santa Cruz where the student electorate has a strong sway over the entire city.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    That social experiment? Create a town of affluent transients.u00a0nnIu00a0think most of the people who’ve lived here for decades can see the degradation cause by that in conjunction with the overwhelming of the town by UC’s insatiable demand for ‘reserved’ jobs and housing that leaves Santa Cruz own children believing they don’t have a chance to ‘make it’ here, no less someoneu00a0travelingu00a0through.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Tara, I’m assigning blame to the university itself in conjunction with the city’s BFFs, the real estate and business interests. Does that clarify it?

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Redistricting… Which is why the North end of SC county is now part of conservative San Mateo and the business interests, propertyu00a0interestsu00a0 in conjunction with their city council lapdogs are the ones benefiting… NOT UCSC students in their overcrowded classrooms and literal on-campus slum housing leaving them yearning to take a local worker’s rental unit (unbeknownst to them, not having a reasonable history of UC’s unchecked growth here readily available)nnnu00a0You’re making your own worst argument.nnKeep talking.

  • Joseph Shaughnessy

    u201cBecause 99% of the time they’re dealing with people who ARE NO THREAT TO ANYONE, but have been ‘criminalized’ by city policy. So they start believing there are no dangerous people around, because truly, they ARE RARE around here.u201dnnnnnTalk about boilerplate.nnnnnThe same socialist utopians you have elected for decades have passed these laws. Take them to the woodshed, not me. In case you missed it, some of your cute little street urchins tried to hold me down and knife me. I was lucky I was also young and in the best shape of my life, or I might not be writing this today. I promise you, guys like that coming in on Peerless Stages from Oakland and Berkeley were in no way the middleclass you speak of. But it does beg the question:nnnnnIn an environment where violence, i.e. the annual May Day Kristallnach, is so regularly pooh-poohed by the powers that be in Santa Cruz, how do you not see you must be prepared for the likes of Goulet to arrive, go in rut, and unleash mayhem?nnnnnI know you must hate the middleclassu2026..but why so Occupy? If you want to hate the middleclass, maybe we should examine all of those who have access to suchnresources, like those sleeping in the 32 bed River Street facility that cost $225,000/bed to build over twenty years ago (never mind running cost), with incredible expensee in proportion to such a small city and county (I believe it was 14 beds initially). No, I do not hate anyone who needs such services for a time, but consider how many careerists are on the board running that and other SC County homeless projects, how many u201chomelessu201d cycle through Santa Cruz because it is a known mark regarding benefits to u201chomelessu201d and tell me this does not make Santa Cruz an institutionalnmagnet for “homeless” for our region, state, and nation.u00a0

  • Joseph Shaughnessy

    u201cBecause 99% of the time they’re dealing with people who ARE NO THREAT TO ANYONE, but have been ‘criminalized’ by city policy. So they start believing there are no dangerous people around, because truly, they ARE RARE around here.u201dnnnnnTalk about boilerplate.nnnnnThe same socialist utopians you have elected for decades have passed these laws. Take them to the woodshed, not me. In case you missed it, some of your cute little street urchins tried to hold me down and knife me. I was lucky I was also young and in the best shape of my life, or I might not be writing this today. I promise you, guys like that coming in on Peerless Stages from Oakland and Berkeley were in no way the middleclass you speak of. But it does beg the question:nnnnnIn an environment where violence, i.e. the annual May Day Kristallnach, is so regularly pooh-poohed by the powers that be in Santa Cruz, how do you not see you must be prepared for the likes of Goulet to arrive, go in rut, and unleash mayhem?nnnnnI know you must hate the middleclassu2026..but why so Occupy? If you want to hate the middleclass, maybe we should examine all of those who have access to suchnresources, like those sleeping in the 32 bed River Street facility that cost $225,000/bed to build over twenty years ago (never mind running cost), with incredible expensee in proportion to such a small city and county (I believe it was 14 beds initially). No, I do not hate anyone who needs such services for a time, but consider how many careerists are on the board running that and other SC County homeless projects, how many u201chomelessu201d cycle through Santa Cruz because it is a known mark regarding benefits to u201chomelessu201d and tell me this does not make Santa Cruz an institutionalnmagnet for “homeless” for our region, state, and nation.u00a0

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    “I know youu00a0must hate the middleclass.” nnNo, I don’t “Hate” anyone. AAMOF Iu00a0raisedu00a0two children around here and kept two junker cars u00a0runningu00a0while working a number of local jobs… SOME were good paying highu00a0profileu00a0skilled jobs too.nnIt’s the pandering to the transient u00a0middle class at the expense of au00a0vilifiedu00a0and now displaced LOCAL working class (now called ‘the homeless… 70% of them anyway) that I DESPISE THE CITY FOR. Got that?nnThe words are DESPISED, and CITY, NOT “Hate” and Middle class”nnJust the fact you think the non-factualu00a0myth thatu00a0Santau00a0Cruz provides great “benefits” for theu00a0homelessu00a0 when in reality a town HALF THIS SIZE, Arcata, has TWO shelters… That actually shelter people, indicates you’reu00a0ignoranceu00a0 or the mindlessu00a0parrotingu00a0of Take Back Santa Cruz agitprop.Other than that thanks for the laugh. I think we all need it when the editor of a city newspaper troll-baits and conflates in an editorial using the murder of two well-respected police officers by u00a0a HOUSED MIDDLE CLASS EMPLOYED PERSON with the utterlyu00a0non-related Homeless and Drug issue.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    “I know youu00a0must hate the middleclass.” nnNo, I don’t “Hate” anyone. AAMOF Iu00a0raisedu00a0two children around here and kept two junker cars u00a0runningu00a0while working a number of local jobs… SOME were good paying highu00a0profileu00a0skilled jobs too.nnIt’s the pandering to the transient u00a0middle class at the expense of au00a0vilifiedu00a0and now displaced LOCAL working class (now called ‘the homeless… 70% of them anyway) that I DESPISE THE CITY FOR. Got that?nnThe words are DESPISED, and CITY, NOT “Hate” and Middle class”nnJust the fact you think the non-factualu00a0myth thatu00a0Santau00a0Cruz provides great “benefits” for theu00a0homelessu00a0 when in reality a town HALF THIS SIZE, Arcata, has TWO shelters… That actually shelter people, indicates you’reu00a0ignoranceu00a0 or the mindlessu00a0parrotingu00a0of Take Back Santa Cruz agitprop.Other than that thanks for the laugh. I think we all need it when the editor of a city newspaper troll-baits and conflates in an editorial using the murder of two well-respected police officers by u00a0a HOUSED MIDDLE CLASS EMPLOYED PERSON with the utterlyu00a0non-related Homeless and Drug issue.

  • Marc Reeve

    One comment:nYou ask “Why would Oregon not have a statute that would have identified him as a sex offender?” nHad he been arrested for the same offense in California, he would not have had to register as a sex offender either. In both states, being a “Peeping Tom” falls under disorderly conduct statutes and is a misdemeanor, not a felony, and does not require registration. Nor is the charge of carrying a weapon without a permit a felony in Oregon – it’s a misdemeanor. It seems, looking at Goulet’s criminal history, that he always managed to skate on the more serious charges (like the “attempted murder” in the Oregon incident). I just saw a tweet from one of your reporters that he was accused of rape in Hawaii seven years ago, but was found not guilty. (Though I note from other stories that that is around when he stopped being in the Army – perhaps there’s a connection there?)n(although, if he’d gotten a Dishonorable Discharge from the military, that is considered the equivalent of a felony conviction as far as firearms ownership goes.)

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Again, what does any of this have to do with a HOUSED MIDDLE CLASS EMPLOYED PERSON killing two police officers?

  • Marc Reeve

    u00a0Sadly, none of the crimes of which he was convicted required him to register as a sex offender even though, clearly, he was. nIt has recently been posted that in 2006 he was accused of rape in Hawaii but was found not guilty. That would have required sex offender registration and also restricted his gun ownership.

  • Marc Reeve

    u00a0a) the “campus rape” is now revealed to have been a hoax, and in any case it was not the primary responsibility of SCPD. nb) the shooting at Natural Bridges and Pauly Silva’s murder happened a mere two weeks ago. Contrary to television, solving violent crimes tends to take longer than 50 minutes plus commercials unless a suspect is caught “red handed”. I was under the impression that arrests had been made in the Silva case, anyway.nc) don’t violate downtown ordinances with police officers around. Obvious.

  • Marc Reeve

    u00a0argh, double post. How come I can’t delete the extra, Disqus?

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Maybeu00a0from the disqus conrol panel… Or perhaps edit it and blank all the text or add an adendum in it’s space might be the ticket

  • Marc Reeve

    u00a0″known sex offender” – false. Jeremy Goulet was on no sexual offender registry.n”also known to own guns” – yeah, that’s valid, but not everyone who owns guns is going to shoot police officers when they show up at the door. Or would you rather there be a policy that a SWAT team show up at the door of people who are known to own guns? (BTW – there are lots of people who legally own guns that don’t have to be registered, so this would also not be effective.)

  • Joseph Shaughnessy

    I have no idea of u00a0who “Take Back Santa Cruz” is and what they profess, as I have lived 35 miles from downtown Santa Cruz since 1993. I am unaware of any efforts by them, so could not possibly “parrot” anything they might say. But regards for your perfected OWS banter,u00a0nnAgain, I’m sorry you do not recognize”the Broken Window Theory” and how toleration and reinforcement of one type of behavior might lead to more detrimental behavior that is criminal.u00a0

  • Marc Reeve

    u00a0You’re repeating ignorant twaddle. He was not a “known sex offender” – he was never convicted of any crime that would put him on the sex offender registry. Also, lots of people own guns (yes, even in oh-so-liberal Santa Cruz) and don’t shoot police officers – why would you want the police to assume they have a chance of being shot if they go to the home of a gun owner? That leads to accidental shootings…

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Another moderated comment, a long comment for marc, due to one word bad word, or perhaps the phrase “take back Santa Cruz” where Iu00a0addressedu00a0their spawn as…

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    I don’t know what OWS is… Sorry.nnnBut if you only live a half hour drive from Santa Cruz yet don’t know what Take Back Santa Cruz is, then why are you even bothering to troll with your nonsense as you are obviously totally out of touch with the problems of Santa Cruz in this century.

  • SC

    RazerRay, you are a moron. Santa Cruz would be a much better place if people like you and the rest of the chemically imballanced freaks bought a one way bus ticket down to Mexico.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Sorryu00a0if the words have too many syllables u00a0or it’s simply too profound for your pea brain to fathom but IS this what set your troll soul twitchin’?nnn”I believe the SCPD’s pandering to commercial property interests, which pretty much revolve around mass enforcing Municipal nuisance ordinances (Harrassification) u00a0designed (but failing) to increase profit margins for the shop owners to allow the property owners higher price/ft for leases, instead of concentrating on community policing which treats ALL RESIDENTS as members of a u00a0community u00a0has led to SCPD’s lack of prioritization of real problems in Santa Cruz,”

  • James Burtnett

    Yea and now they all have dogs that they can’t take care of that also keeps them from looking for a job. POOR Dogs!

  • James Burtnett

    WOWu00a0Blamingu00a0HIPPIES you must be Tripping!u00a0

  • GJ Thrive

    the dogs serve a dual purpose as I understand it: for low-functioning folks a relationship with a dog is often easier to tolerate than with a human (i can relate at times!) ; the police are more hesitant to pick someone up with a dog because they have to do something with the animal.

  • GJ Thrive

    i’m afraid the twisted reality of california real estate has meant that most middle class people have held onto their home for decades and their kids have to rent or move elsewhere.nBut you can blame it on the hippies if you want.

  • James Burtnett

    What I am saying is that a homeless person with a dog can not look for a job or anything else. Plus u00a0the animals are rarely taken can ofu00a0properly. You want a Job or a Dog?u00a0

  • GJ Thrive

    I think it’s important to remember the picture painted by the little we know of the guy. It basically looks like:u00a0″…a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood.”u00a0ie psychopathy.nnInterestingly this man who had an incredible disdain for authority and police joined the military and became a police man. What a clever way to outwit the class you loathe. In some ways his lifelong vendetta against police may have been leading to this moment.If we are to blame anyone it appears that it should be the military disciplinary system which rather than charging him with a crime preferred to discharge him. He was violating policy within weeks of his arrival at some places.nPerhaps because we live in a predominantly white, slightly left of center seaside town, with next to no possibility for growth and an intimate relationship with nature it’s easy for us to maintain an illusion that “we’re all alike” and that only those crazy-eyed homeless people we see walking along the river are the dangerous ones. Our town feels compact no doubt because we have a thriving city center where we congregate. Many of us walk or ride bikes, and we are often outdoors because of the weather – hence we get to see each other and in a way confirm the impression that we’re all alike, that crazy is “not here”.

  • What’s Best for Santa Cruz

    “Sorryu00a0if the words have too many syllables u00a0or it’s simply too profound for your pea brain to fathom…”nnReally, RazerRay?!?!u00a0 You’re a clown. nn”No, I don’t “Hate” anyone. AAMOF Iu00a0raisedu00a0two children around here and nkept two junker cars u00a0runningu00a0while working a number of local jobs… nSOME were good paying highu00a0profileu00a0skilled jobs too.” nnYou obviously think you’re intellectually superior to others posting here yet it’s clear you haven’t been able to excel professionally. I would be curious to hear more about the “high profile skilled jobs” you’ve held, why you weren’t able to remain employed and what you’ve done to contribute to this community. nnI agree with SC…you should pack up those two “junker cars” and move elsewhere.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    I’mu00a0intellectuallyu00a0superior to you. For a start I can stay on-topic.nnFurther, there’s content along with my ad homs andu00a0denigrations u00a0whether you’d care to agree with those suppositions, facts et al.nnWhat you just posted contained no information that even YOU could consider pertinent to either the subject of “Deadu00a0Policeu00a0Officers… Why?” or a rant about how the homeless areu00a0responsibleu00a0for a housed middle class employed person’s behavior… Or for that matter even a drug-related theme.For what it’s worth the only drugs you’re liable to find among theu00a0decedent killer’su00a0effects are scripts from the VA for stuff that apparently didn’t work too well.

  • Mitchell

    So what exactly is your point?n

  • erked

    u00a0 I agree with most everything written here. What I see as being a part of theu00a0problem is we haveu00a0u00a0city officials (Police, Supervisors, Judges and so on) who seem tou00a0be recalcitrant in makingu00a0tough decisions concerning what really needs to be done to deal with these problems that will continue to plague our county.u00a0nu00a0 Downtown is not just annoying anymore due to the panhandler but now it is an unsafe atmosphere.u00a0 So many people are so quick to judge the ones that have little compassion for the homeless but what about compassion for the business owners and tax payers.nu00a0I am not alone in being sick to death of seeing homeless people walking around like zombies everywhere and knowing that I put out so much effort everyday for my pay and so much of it goesu00a0to the homeless and criminals element and the huge costs involved. nu00a0u00a0It also saddens me to watchu00a0criminals arrestedu00a0over andu00a0over and let go onu00a0with loweru00a0bail, whenu00a0many should be given the sentence they deserve…out of county jailu00a0and off tou00a0the state. Makes me think thatu00a0the bail system brings in enoughu00a0money for the county. u00a0I may be wrong but from a citizens view when violent criminals are not given proper sentencing this is what comes to mind. And I am not alone in that perception.u00a0nu00a0 The really question is, where is the money that we are obviously already spending on the criminals and homeless, best used.u00a0 Tough, smart decision are what is needed ifu00a0we want to keep the Santa Cruz area fromu00a0not just our reputation ofu00a0′weird’, but alsou00a0not family or business friendly.nu00a0 Wake Up People, This Tolerance is Not Going To Benefit Us!

  • Jennifer Carole

    I was downtown Friday between 5-6pm and it was the first time I was scared to be downtown alone. There were few people out – I guessed working people had already left and evening people hadn’t yet arrived – and the streets were crawling with transients and people who were clearly mentally ill. I could barely move from one store to another without being solicited. One man parked his bike plus trailer in the middle of the street in front of Chefworks – blocking all traffic – so he could fill up his water bottles (about seven of them) at the public water fountain. I don’t want to deny that man water, but he created a hazard and was in no hurry to move things along.u00a0nnI left feeling freaked out and thinking, the Downtown Association has a huge problem. I want to spend my money in those businesses. I believe in our town. I lived in San Francisco for years, I have a high tolerance and yet, dammit, I finally got scared.u00a0nnI want our town back. I want my daughter to be able to hang out downtown after school. I want to shop there and eat there and watch movies on a Friday night.u00a0nnBut first, I want to feel safe.

  • Forbes

    Thank you for taking the risk andu00a0often lonely position of talking truth!nIt is important to bring truth out of the shadows for our own awareness.nn2010 FBI stats put violent crime per 1000 people in Santa Cruz at 9.6 – only surpaassed in the Bay Area by Oakland at 15.3, Emeryville at 12.5, and Richmond at 11.3.nIn 2005, for California cities with populations between 50-60k, Santa Cruz was the worst with over 500 violent crimes. nnFor more info checknhttp://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/datacenter/fbi-stats-crime-in-the-bay-area-in-2010.htmlnYou’ll have to search Santa Cruz in bottom left search box.nnSanta Cruz has such an embellished reputation that its easy to overlook the problems. nNow the problems are getting louder and we have no choice but to address them. To address them, and be real about them, does not mean that we are against Santa Cruz, does not mean that our hearts do not bleed for the officers who lost their lives. Quite the contrary, it means we want to feel safe here and for our children to feel safe.nu00a0

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    “One man parked his bike plus trailer in the middle of the street in front of Chefworks – blocking all traffic – so he could fill up his water bottles (about seven of them) at the public water fountain.”nnOH… MY… GOD!n(snigger)nnI was downtown about the same time Jennifer.. Actually I’mu00a0downtownu00a0A LOT as a societal observing journalist… Perhaps I was one of the people you were ‘scared’ ofu00a0becauseu00a0I’m a middle age male who has long hair, u00a0rides a bike and hangs out wherever I feel like.u00a0Wheneveru00a0I feel like. I know junkies AND millionaires around here and I LIKE IT that way.nnIt’s called “Free Association”. You ought to try it sometimes when your meds kick in and the edge is taken off your fear of being in publicnnIn my estimation the last couple of days downtown were very veryu00a0quiet.nnI was notu00a0harassedu00a0for leaning on walls, and theu00a0Sheriffsu00a0could give a flying if I was smoking on Pacific. I saw no ranters or violence of ANY kind. including no men catcalling women and other culturally common forms of harassment… unlike on days most of u00a0the SCPD is swarming around the three block shopping area call Downtown.nnToday one of my female friends came up with her two young children from rural Monterey county. We hadu00a0coffeeu00a0at the local Starbucks and she ran into quite a few friends she had’t seen for a while.nnI wonder if you were at the same Downtown Santa Cruz… Or IF you were really there at all, or MAYBE you’re simply scared of anyone not just… like… you.nnI’m from New York originally and been in Santa Cruz for four decades now… I consider SF to be a skanky alcoholic-of-all-age filled slum of a citynnMaybe you should move back to San Francisco if you felt more comfortable there.u00a0nWe will not miss you OR your idea of what constitutes a safe city. Which seems to mean that people shouldn’t fill their water bottles in public from a public fountain

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    So what do you think about middle class housed people who kill cops?

  • Connor W

    Has all that medical cannabis affected your reading comprehension?u00a0My point was they are not hippies any more, they gave up “fighting the man” a long time ago, and deal with their guilt by voting for a proxy like Don Lane or Mike Rotkin,u00a0who are more interested in social justice than actually operating a city.u00a0nnNot blaming hippies, blaming baby boomers.

  • erked

    What do you mean by that. Middle Class???Housed???

  • James Burtnett

    Sorry Connor W don’t smoke it, but I am a BABY BOOMER HIPPIE all Hippies were Baby Boomers What have you beenu00a0ingesting?u00a0

  • James Burtnett

    Like I said POOR DOGS!

  • Anonymous

    Oh my guess is that looking for a job is not exactly at the top of the priority list for most of these folks. Not even remotely.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    The guy who killed the two officers.u00a0Middle Class Housed… Employed till quite recently, Marineu00a0Veteran,u00a0Cop killer.u00a0u00a0nnThe “editor” (quotes intentional) u00a0here threw troll bait to the Take Back Santa Cruz fear-filled Fascist brigade by making the deaths of the officers (both of whom I knew well) u00a0a homeless druggie issue but neither drugs nor homelessness had anything to do with the officer’s deaths.nnNow you might actually want to read up on it in the news section because, like others here, you can’t grasp the connection between his writings and the event that led to it by reading the editor’s drivel about what is essentially a socioeconomic problem the city created by displacing their workers to make room for UC students and transient office workers… for the benefit of the property and businessu00a0interestsu00a0… at the expense of anything resembling a functional community.nnThe Senile has been whining about it and displacing the blame onto theu00a0victimsu00a0of those city policies foru00a0at leastu00a0the last 40 years .nnFurther Iu00a0wantu00a0to know why the moderator isn’t canning every homeless hate baiting comment here as off-topic seeing that the deaths of theu00a0officersu00a0has nothing to do with the editor’s conjecture… Except that IS the ONLY conjecture ANYONE at the Senile will ever propose no matter how crude and faulty.Because race baiting (Chicanos and the small black community), the other thing the Senile does so well, won’t fly here.

  • Sirf Muse

    nnnnnnnnYes. Lets get honest. We don’t know why Jeremy Goulet, the man described by his family as a “ticking time bomb”, finally exploded in Santa Cruz. There were over a dozen mass shootings in 2012 in cities other than Santa Cruz. None of those places had a self-proclaimed policy to “keep weird” and their normalcy did not protect them u00a0from those murderers. Theu00a0argumentu00a0that our attitude ofu00a0acceptance ofu00a0alternative lifestyles is causing people like Mr. Goulet to come to Santa Cruz is illogical and sounds desperate.u00a0nnThis is not to say we don’t have any problems here, just that our attitude of “tolerance” doesn’t make us that much different than all those other communities where tragedy has struck. Nearly everyone in this country is having to deal with the same economy, same difficulties in finding meaningful work. Most of us are or have friends and family members struggling with getting decent healthcare, housing etc. Hopefully we will come up with some ideas on addressing these real underlying problem and address that instead of creating an atmosphere of hatred and intolerance in hopes that we will somehow scare all the boogie men away.u00a0nnMore likely, the surge in violence nationwide has more to deal with an increase in untreated mental illness which is being exasperated by years of deteriorating funding andu00a0multipleu00a0sources of stress. We have increasing numbers of people who are not coping. Violence is the result .u00a0

  • Sirf Muse

    nnnnnnnnYes. Lets get honest. We don’t know why Jeremy Goulet, the man described by his family as a “ticking time bomb”, finally exploded in Santa Cruz. There were over a dozen mass shootings in 2012 in cities other than Santa Cruz. None of those places had a self-proclaimed policy to “keep weird” and their normalcy did not protect them u00a0from those murderers. Theu00a0argumentu00a0that our attitude ofu00a0acceptance ofu00a0alternative lifestyles is causing people like Mr. Goulet to come to Santa Cruz is illogical and sounds desperate.u00a0nnThis is not to say we don’t have any problems here, just that our attitude of “tolerance” doesn’t make us that much different than all those other communities where tragedy has struck. Nearly everyone in this country is having to deal with the same economy, same difficulties in finding meaningful work. Most of us are or have friends and family members struggling with getting decent healthcare, housing etc. Hopefully we will come up with some ideas on addressing these real underlying problem and address that instead of creating an atmosphere of hatred and intolerance in hopes that we will somehow scare all the boogie men away.u00a0nnMore likely, the surge in violence nationwide has more to deal with an increase in untreated mental illness which is being exasperated by years of deteriorating funding andu00a0multipleu00a0sources of stress. We have increasing numbers of people who are not coping. Violence is the result .u00a0

  • Andrea Kacmarski

    I remmber the manager at a high end market who raped one woman and murdered a pregnant woman who had worked at the same market. We always look to the brain as being the only culprit and ignore what the individual ate or if that individual excerized on and on. It is the endocrinological system that can effect how the brain functions. There’s a good book called “Idiot’s Guide to Thyroid Desease” by a Dr. Alan Christianson(sic)u00a0( Please excuse me for being lazy and not looking up misspelled words) The brain is part of the body and the how the body functions, but we continue to over analyze the brain and blame how the person reacts to that person’s enviorment on that person. For example, Adolf Hitler, according to a National Geological program, had au00a0gold bridge in his mouth. Now if that gold wasn’t prepared right, it would have mercury in it. The mercury affects the brain thru the functioning of the thyroid, after awhile, when it builds up to a point the thyroid will go into hypothyroid and shut down. (by the way, thereu00a0are quick silver mines over in Almaden/Twin Creeks area near San Jose, signs everywhere alert visitors not to fish in the creeks because of mercury contamination) Mercury is similiar in molacular structure as iodine, the thyroid uptakes iodine to convert into T cells, there is T1′s, T2′s, T3′s, and T4′s. T3′s go immediatly to your body’s cells. T4′s are like storage cells, the adrenal gland produces a hormone called cortisol that strips one molucule of iodine from the T4, converting it into a T3. It hasn’t been found out what T1′s do, but T2′s may have something to do with how body fat is processed? As a kid in the California Conservation Corps, I remmber someone telling a group of us that gold miners would go crazy because of mercury poisoning.u00a0 Mercury can be found in our food and vaccines. I just don’t think all the knowledge is out there for most people in medicineu00a0to properlyu00a0diagnose what really ails people. Lastly,u00a0 why do older men need viagra if it’s all in the head?

  • 40yearshere

    Naive, childish, self-referential, bubble-livingu00a0 Santa Cruz.u00a0 Ground Zero for divisive, UCSC-inspired, Feminist Insanity and the War On Men.u00a0u00a0 So many people attaching themselves to controversial causes purely for the sake of self-promotion and money. nnu00a0THESE LATEST THREE DEATHS WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED but for the ever-increasing, draconian laws against natural (but not necessarily good) male behavior.u00a0u00a0 Clearly, this trend will continue, as we mindlessly reward self-proclaimed “law and order” politicians who have no particular qualifications (at all levels of government).u00a0 nnThank you, SCCPVAW, WAWC, DDM, SHC, Greensite, UCSC, and all the others.u00a0 Thank you so much.u00a0 But, at least you are paying your mortgage via these social plays.u00a0u00a0 All the race and gender-based nonprofits are fomenting hatred and dividing the nation.u00a0 If this were the 1950s, you’d all be on trial for being communists.u00a0 Perhaps now you’re collaborating with China ?u00a0 (Note: I voted for Obama both times – and I support abortion and gay rights – don’t label me an old right winger).nnBefore flaming this, you need to spend many years traveling around the world to see how other cultures view and handle these issues.u00a0 Their attitudes are very different than ours.u00a0 HINTS:u00a0 It’s not because they are “less leading edge” than we are.u00a0 It’s not because they don’t want “social justice”.u00a0u00a0 Many around the world think the US has gone totally nuts at this point.nnIt has to be said.nnPeace Out.

  • Uc-employee

    u00a0Interesting and painfully true.u00a0 And what about the recent false rape report at UCSC ?u00a0 Will there be charges ? What was her motive ? Was Gillian involved ?nn

  • SaveSantaCruz

    I am sad for the fallen officers.u00a0 It was a horrible eye opening incident of what is really going on in Santa Cruz.u00a0 When I moved to Santa Cruz a few years ago, I was warned that Santa Cruz is a town of drugs, low aspiring poverty line surfers, and homeless drifters.u00a0 I thought no.u00a0 This canu2019t be.u00a0 Itu2019s beautiful and there are pockets of cute up-kept neighborhoods and families.u00a0 Now I realize that when you visit Santa Cruz on the weekends, you are mingling with folks from the valley here on a visit to their beach cottage and whatnot.u00a0 Monday morning rolls around and itu2019s frightening what you see or just donu2019t see on the weekends.u00a0 Just in the last 30 days, there were 214 crimes committed in this small town (http://crimereports.org/).u00a0 I have a school age child and Iu2019m not kidding.u00a0 The families I have met through school are are on welfare, used to be on drugs, dads in jail, absent dads growing pot up north, etc.u00a0 The few hard working parents commute over the hill.u00a0 56% of kids in the school qualify for the free state lunch program.u00a0 That seems like a lot.u00a0 I really wonder what is going on with the local community.u00a0 Just the other day, I drove to work and counted roughly 37 homeless people.u00a0 37 in a maybe 8 minute drive!u00a0 But, beyond the homeless problem.u00a0 There is a drug problem.u00a0 There is a lack of employment.u00a0 Maybe a lack of work ethic.u00a0 I donu2019t know.u00a0 It seems people here are more involved in saving the environment than saving the people who live in it.u00a0 Lu00a0 I wish I had a solution.u00a0 Just food for thought.

  • Anonymous

    A new narrative… An intriguing thought! u00a0It’s a compelling moment for a turning of the page. u00a0Our little town has an influence far beyond it’s size. u00a0″Santa Cruz” is known around the world not primarily for drugs, homelessness, or crime. u00a0It’s known as the mecca for many of the finest skaters, surfers, mountain bikers, and rock climbers the world has ever seen. u00a0Perhaps there are the seeds of future genius and talent among us even now. u00a0Perhaps we will invent and export other culturally revolutionary ideas and activities. u00a0Embracing firmer boundaries and higher cultural expectations creates an environment where creativity and genius can flourish. u00a0″Weird” does not have to mean “wasted.” u00a0Perhaps in a new narrative, “weird” can return to it’s root meaning… “Destined.”

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